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05 May 2007 @ 05:24 pm
Is it the consensus here that all wild caught animals are a bad thing to have?  I didn't realize that was the case on herpers.  In my opinion, as long as it is legal, and you can care for it responsibly, there's not a problem with taking an animal from the wild.  Many a child has begun their herp fascination with a box turtle.  
I'd really like to know how you all feel; it is not covered in the community info page.  Well, for that matter it's not covered in herpers community info either but I was definitely informed.
I appreciate the input; I don't want to belong to a group that has an opposing viewpoint to mine.
Ellieellie_desu on May 5th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
Just in my personal opinion wild animals should be left be. They've made it to adulthood and are needed to continue their populations. There are plenty of reputable captive breeders you get get an animal from if you love a certain species.
Faolan Rowefaolanredwolf on May 5th, 2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
to me it depends.
I'd not liek to see someone going out and wrassling an alligator and putting it in their backyard..Nor would i like to see someone try to keep a wild moniotr..that is REALLY dangerous for the person. Or get a venomous snake..

But, Anoles...corn snakes..salamanders..and turtles..even house geckos..
IF you have the knowleged...the set up...a food source..and you are willing to release the animal as soon as it shows signs of not being ok in captivity. IE sickness, not eating, moping around, then i think it's fine. Until herps got popular, that is how it started.

I'm in florida, so i have these anoles all over the place..infact my backyard was a lizard orngy the other day. They are everywhere, so it isn't difficult to catcha few put them in a tank outside out of direct sunlight and watch them. I'll release them a few days later though. It's more intereasting and cheaper than paying 8 bucks for one in a store.
Faolan Rowefaolanredwolf on May 5th, 2007 11:00 pm (UTC)
to add to that ellie makes a good point. I'd not suggest an adult. If there are suddenly a lot of babies around...i think that the survival rate is low for most in the wild. It's a mixed bag. I think catching and releasing is more of a neat/benefitting thing...it's what i love to do.

What particular animal are you talking about though?
Changebe_prepared on May 5th, 2007 11:31 pm (UTC)
Many native animals are protected species (I know where I am from Box Turtles are protected too). Not to mention it's illegal in some states to collect native animals.

It really depends on what it is that is being caught...
Teh Dino!dinogrrl on May 6th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC)
Generally, yes. There are enough herp breeders out there that you should have no problem finding a captive-bred animal if you're looking for a pet.
Teh Dino!dinogrrl on May 6th, 2007 12:21 am (UTC)
*Generally, yes--most people here feel that taking animals from the wild should not be done in most cases by most people.
spotshousespotshouse on May 6th, 2007 01:36 am (UTC)
It was not anything that I wanted to get; another person had asked advice on a baby snake of a common species that she had collected. The response was hugely against taking anything from the wild, and I realized that they were so opposite in my thinking that I didn't feel I could stay there. I did answer the person asking the original question, though.
I keep 68 reptiles, most captive bred, some native wild, some exotic wild caught and a few venomous. Everything I have gets medical attention, is fed and kept properly and is legal.
I really felt like a community like this had room for people with all different likes in the reptile world.
N.G. Woosh: Mini Mallngwoosh on May 6th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
I don't want to belong to a group that has an opposing viewpoint to mine.

Your viewpoint, this one and others you possibly have, will in fact conflict with at LEAST one member on this group. Chances are in the world most people do in fact disagree with you on your opinion(s). Granted in a group the size of herpers there is more of a chance of meeting more people that this is true with.

However, if we play like nice children I'm sure we can get around that without having to up and leave because everybody doesn't agree with us 100%. Talk about herps, and if you have a different opinion than somebody else try talking about it and maybe somebody will learn something.
spotshousespotshouse on May 6th, 2007 02:00 am (UTC)
Oh, I know we don't all have the same opinions; what I meant was that if 99% (for example) of the group would be very upset every time a wild caught herp was mentioned then we would not have much in common.
N.G. Woosh: Mini Mallngwoosh on May 6th, 2007 02:06 am (UTC)
Aithyneaithyne on May 6th, 2007 01:55 am (UTC)
mokele had a really good comment, in my opinion. I don't have a huge problem with wild caught for those very reasons, though I respect the opinions of those who do.

So, even if it's the consensus here, I know no one will get flamed here - at least after I see the problem. The best thing to do is help someone raise their herp in the safest, healthiest way possible - not flame them and give them absolutely no help whatsoever. It's akin (in my mind) to yelling at a parent for doing something wrong with their newborn, but not telling them how to fix it. I mean dude, constructive criticism.

Anyway, I can add a generalized statement to the community info, about different hot button topics, if someone has any good wording ideas. =D
spotshousespotshouse on May 6th, 2007 01:58 am (UTC)
Mokele did have a really good comment. I can certainly understand and respect all points of view and would like the same.
Nobody's Girltrixie_killmore on May 6th, 2007 08:41 am (UTC)
I have no problems with wild-caught animals that are owned by experienced herpers who know exactly how to care for them and provide for them. Most "domestic" herps on the market today are few -if any- generations away from wild stock.